Talk:Community-acquired pneumonia

what does this garbage mean: "CAP often causes problems like breathing,..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.215.37.73 (talk) 21:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I'm proposing that the article walking pneumonia is merged with community-acquired pneumonia.

Reasons:

• Significant information overlaps such as

-Treatment

-Symptoms

-Pathology

• It seems according to both the pneumonia article and the Community-acquired pneumonia (CAP) that "walking pneumonia" is a secondary term still in use. It would seem more useful and appropriate to add on to CAP any unique details of walking pneumonia there.
• Walking pneumonia hasn't been significantly edited since its creation over 2 years ago.
• Walking pneumonia lacked references since its creation. It's been tagged as needing references for over half a year now and still doesn't have any.

If there is a substantial difference between walking pneumonia and community-acquired pneumonia that would require it's own article, we could create the page later, but as it stands now it seems to be a better idea to combine with community-acquired pneumonia since the article is significantly more comprehensive and information overlaps. --76.214.197.61 17:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Medical practioners diagnose walking pneumonia on its own - and not as 'community acquired'. Though there may be overlap, medically it is a seperate and distinct type of infection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.129.92 (talk) 17:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Most of the content of this page concerns pneumonia, not information specific to community-acquired pneumonia. I recommend moving most of the content here to other pages, so that this page can focus on its own topic. --Una Smith (talk) 17:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I disagree as well. Walking pneumonia is a specific subtype of pneumonia and is diagnosed on its own by physicians...it is most akin to atypical pneumonia. Community based pneumonia simply means pneumonia acquired outside the medical setting, and thus is a BROAD category and is not specific enough to merge with walking pneumonia. -posted by Medical Student, PA

According to what I can find, walking pneumonia is specifically diagnosed in cases of mycoplasma pneumonia only, not viral or bacterial pneumonia. Therefore, I think it warrants it's own page and the topic expanded based on this specification.Phaldor (talk) 19:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

It's easy enough to disagree, but anonymous comments without any edits kind of support the proposal. This article still hasn't seen any major edits or contributions in over a year. Semantics and words have been culled here and there, but nothing notable or substantial. The "medical" people commenting still haven't explained a significant difference, nor edited the article to explain the differences. I'm going to change the merger to Pneumonia since the debate is that it isn't like Community-acquired pneumonia, but it's seemingly agreed that it's pneumonia. If its content can be expanded upon in Pneumonia, that'd be a different case; give it its own article.

Also, please use signatures and follow the threading order to comment on this. --68.77.23.42 (talk) 12:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

WPMED assessment

On reflection, I have re-assessed this article as Start class and Mid importance. --Una Smith (talk) 17:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

image

the xray image is poor quality, and is most likely a pleural effusion (not that you can not have a pleural effusion with a pneumonia). A x-ray with lobular consolidation would be more correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.5.180 (talk) 18:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Added a helpful image that gives a list of Common adult CAP etiologies. Having problems trying to find licensing or copyright for that image. Can anyone help with that? It is a free and informative download at www.idsociety.org Ponsau (talk) 03:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I had CAP and this is the before and after xray http://imgur.com/a/7aGcT I am not sure how to add it. It might be better as you can see it clearly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.135.0.148 (talk) 12:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Review

NEJM doi:10.1056/NEJMra1312885 JFW | T@lk 21:09, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Definition of CAP is flawed.

The very first sentence, defining CAP, is flawed. Community-acquired pneumonia (CAP) refers to pneumonia (any of several lung diseases) contracted by a person with little contact with the healthcare system. The intent is sort of there, but it makes it sound like it's caught by those with no health care at all, as opposed to simply being acquired outside of hospital settings. Using the wiki's HAP definition as a guide, let's change that to read: Community-acquired pneumonia (CAP) refers to pneumonia (any of several lung diseases) contracted by a person who hasn't been in a hospital within the past 3 to 4 days.

Sound good? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MsgtB (talk • contribs) 01:17, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

I agree it's flawed. But where do you get 3-4 days? Shouldn't it be based on an official definition. Seems commonest definition is just infection of the lung parenchyma that is not acquired in the hospital. JuanTamad (talk) 06:09, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

How about: defined clinically, usually on the basis of the microorganism causing the disease (but unidentified in 50% of cases), concomitant diseases and the presence of other risk factors, and whether the person has been recently hospitalized.

I like either of your suggested corrections. Thank you!

I just got released from the hospital, with my diagnosis being CAP. Looked it up and noted the odd wording, as I'm not someone with "little access to healthcare." Dug around a tad, which led me to this wiki's Hospital Acquired Pneumonia. I extrapolated the days from its "48-72 hours after being admitted." It also cites two references: Mandell's Principle and Practices of Infection Diseases and The Oxford Textbook of Medicine, to back up that definition.

I'm not knowledgeable in the field of medicine. I started this talk page entry hoping to spark the interest of who knows more than I, who would be able to provide references as you did. I thank you very much!

MsgtB (talk) 21:47, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

References